Dear Mugz,

You have received an infraction at Bluelight.

Reason: Other BLUA Violation
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What exactly do you think coming into the lounge and talking about this is going to do?

You can stop reporting posts that you have bought on yourself.

Let sleeping dogs lie. Stop talking about Lou, stop talking about Tiny Chat. Put that whole incident into the past where it belongs - unless you want to wallow in drama and have people bully you forever.

There comes a time when you have to be the bigger person and not invite drama, Mugz.
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=11400543



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Does lou even have a team? I saw him on cam in TC earlier so didn't join the room, I know that was his domain before mine, but he hasn't exactly been around these parts since the incident, guilt and shame me thinks All the best,
Bluelight "

video chat provided by Tinychat

Hello,

As I said in the previous email, we were able to confirm him providing access to staff-only information.  That's why we acted.  Again, let me be clear so that you don't paraphrase me... we acted on what we know, not what somebody told us.

I don't wish to be rude, but I feel that it would be beneficial to both of us if this is stated categorically.  Whatever goes on between two members off-site is their concern.  We are not here for the drama that ensues.  We are not here to take sides.  We are not here to weigh up two very sketchy accounts of an event.  We are not here to act as an arbiter.  We are not here to make a judgement in lieu of (or dependant on the progress of) a Police investigation.

We are here with quite a clear purpose and the above does not fall into that remit.

Best wishes for the future and I hope that your road to recovery proceeds well.

Regards,
TM

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:38 PM,  wrote:

so that part of my version of events was believed but none of the rest was, putting other members of bluelight in further danger, what about a ban until the police case is over with, then it will be innocent until proven guilty with him being denied bail. You all know what happened and it's fucked me up a lot, I feel disgraced at the way it's been handled by the senior staff to be honest as permabans have been issued for far less that what happened in paris.

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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:32:26 +0000

Subject: Re: debaser
From: bluelight.admin@gmail.com
To:

Hi,

Debaser was removed for providing access to staff only information - based on your tip-off and what we were able to confirm.

There isn't a contradiction.

Regards,
TM

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:27 PM,  wrote:

Seems a bit contradictory to me considering you did POLICE the user DEBASER by removing him from the staff but that is all you were willing to do, so you kind of accepted that it most likely(it fucking did) happen but are not willing to take it any further. Just a massive pisstake in my opinion.

hello

i've discussed this with the senior staff team and we're agreed that we're not going to start policing users on bl based on events (alleged or otherwise) in real life.

we're sorry if you find the presence of another member on the board offensive. we'd recommend that you use the ignore feature to address that situation. you have control of - and need to take some responsibility for - your own bluelight experience.

posts which violate the blua or the guidelines of a specific forum will be dealt with in the usual way and the poster in question optionally warned or infracted for each incident.

regards

alasdair

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:47 AM,  Mugz wrote:

Hi,

I know that you would all like to put this situation behind us and move on to better things but there are a few things that I wish to say.

I find it greatly offensive that debaser has been allowed to continue to participate as an active member of bluelight after the situation in Paris. The allegations alone caused you to remove him from both of his moderator positions and temp ban him while I was also temp banned. I also know there is a prevalent innocent until proven guilty factor, but the fact is that you have my word and you have some of his and you have seen the screenshots from tinychat of the sexual assault incident which has been reported to the police by me I might add, so it seems strange that someone of this kind of nature is allowed to carry on posting.

Let me try and put it in a metaphorical way, say I had been visiting a coffee shop for around about 9 years and then 6 years later someone else started visiting the same coffee shop and we didn't notice each other at all, then say I was given a job at this coffee shop and then started to notice this other visitor and thought he had potential to also have a job at the coffee shop so I actively encouraged him whilst I was still a member of staff at the coffee shop and relieved him of his doubts that the coffee shop was not in his natural language and that he could speak the language of the coffee shop fine. Then lets say that as I stepped down from the coffee shop staff but continued to visit the coffee shop as it was a nice coffee shop with a good atmosphere and this other guy became a staff member of the coffee shop.

Now imagine that after a year or more of conversing with this coffee shop staff member inside and outside the coffee shop, sometimes in an internet café too and built up some form of trust in him this man invited you to his house in another part of the country that you had no real knowledge of the locations of various places, but you went there to meet up with him because after all those years in the coffee shop building up a foundation of trust you and the owners of the coffee shop obviously trusted him enough to bring him on board as staff too, you decided to go ahead and meet up with said coffee shop staff member, and then he tortured you and almost killed you and said that I had to choose between coffee or death at his hand and he scared the living daylights out of you and then he made you act as his slave and then he took you to that internet café that was mentioned earlier and forced you to perform a sexual act on him which was documented by other members of the internet café who also visit the coffee shop regularly too. Imagine going through all of that and then escaping, admittedly after being robbed of 100euros and my £200 headphones and a sweater that he didn't like the look of, but kicked out at 3am in the morning on a Friday night. I had to struggle to find my way back to the train station to take me back to my own land and then my debit card was stolen at the station too so I had to manage to get back home just with the money I had drawn out of the ATM on the way to the train station and luckily had just enough cash, bar about £1 to make it back to my home safely

Imagine going back into this coffee shop as it had become almost a second home to you after visiting it for almost 9 year and being relieved that the member of staff had been fired and starting to feel safe in the coffee shop again, but then this ex staff member who was fired for good reason decided to come back to the coffee shop too and sometimes even sit at the next table and make comments about me in my area of the coffee shop, which were later deleted from the memory of the coffee shop regulars but not the staff that were still there. Imagine how hard and angry it made me to sometimes see this ex staff member who was sacked for allegations of sexual assault on a customer of the coffee shop, imagine how angry it made him when he kept seeing this ex staff member come and sit down in the coffee shop and make comments to the other visitors of the coffee shop as though nothing had happened.

I often wonder about the moral values of the owners and senior and even the regular staff member of this coffee shop for allowing this member back through the door at all and not banning him from entering completely after what happened with me, he could sit in that coffee shop for years more to come and eventually gain the trust of someone else that also visits the coffee shop and do exactly the same thing.

I'm just asking for a bit of human respect here really and some morality on your part, I know there is the innocent until proven guilty thing but the police have been informed and will make their enquiries. It just fills me with anger and makes me sometimes want to find an alternate coffee shop to the one that I loved so much for over 8 years, almost 9 when I see this other criminal visitor ex member of staff come in and act as though nothing has happened.

If you wont ban him permanently then please will you provide me with a sufficient explanation as to why you have chosen not to????? That is all I ask.

Thanks for reading if you got this far. 

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Originally Posted by debaser

Hey guys

Got some good moroccan hash, so I'm all set for the night

I hope you die of a strange cheese fork related death, or maybe drown in a Moroccan fez hat that takes every last breath away from you, maybe the cheese fork went straight through your neck and filled the fez hat, a Moroccan hat it was purchased with the hash, be down with you forever.

disclaimer, this was made in jest, please do not behest a deformation of my breast

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Doing good matey, having a great Skype chat with a lovely lady

       

 

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SHAMBLES

Capsules of coffee things, Bear?

Also...

*waves at Mugz*

Hope your world doesn't turn too grey in the absence of the good, good blue light

Thanks for the unexpected wave mate, I'm just heading out now to a group therapy session, it's the "Getting started in recovery" one again. It helped last week so hope it does again this week.

Then my friend is coming round at 4.30 to hang out for a bit.

My world I am trying to keep as non overwhelminingly grey as possible, I can still see the bluelight, the colour of the background of my blog is blue too.

I'll always be a blue boy., a live blue boy that is.

where are blog emoticons when you need them



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